Who will Manifold be most generally aligned to?
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2028
10%
Eliezer Yudkowsky
1.5%
Robin Hanson
1.5%
Daniel Hillis
2%
Daniel Sheehan
2%
Balaji Srinivasan
2%
Curtis Yarvin
5%
Cory Doctorow
35%
Gwern Branwen
39%
Other

I believe it is very beneficial for individuals to use the below market to indicate to the rest of Manifold who they are aligned with and to what degree. It is helpful because it shows us who is paying attention to who and that helps me determine how information will flow across peer networks.

https://manifold.markets/Krantz/who-are-you-aligned-with?r=S3JhbnR6

It's a simple market where users wager up to 99 mana on yes or no to indicate the degree to which they are aligned or disaligned with a particular user's beliefs. The value is calculated by determining the percentage of propositions both users share confidence on in the same direction. The market isn't really designed as a mechanism for directly earning mana, however I have been sending replenishment mana to users that take it seriously.

Ultimately, this will be calculated by sampling any available krantz data.

https://manifold.markets/Krantz/krantz-mechanism-demonstration?r=S3JhbnR6

This prediction is aimed at identifying which individual will have the greatest number of Manifold users that indicate positive alignment (x>0) minus the number of users that indicate negative alignment (x<0).

This prediction will resolve to the person that has the greatest number of users indicating positive alignment minus the number of users indicating negative alignment.

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@Chumchulum This is very unlikely to occur, unless someone adds them to the market that is decisive in resolving this metamarket.

Maybe indicate that this is [META] in the title, and note in the description that this predicts the result of the other market, in explicit terms. Do not describe the other market in the description of this market, but only talk about this market, and describe the other market in the description of that market. Only describe how this meta market resolves in the description of this market, and there will be no confusion.

I don't BTW think all ARE reading the instructions, as they are placing limit orders.

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@Krantz you do realize when somebody has 1 percent, at that point there is no way to show negative alignment until somebody bets on them first to raise them over one percent?

@JussiVilleHeiskanen You're referring to the other market, correct? This is not the market you would indicate negative alignment on. This prediction resolves to one name. The other market is not singular. What you point out could be a potential problem, but it would only occur in very rare circumstances (assuming everyone is following the instructions).

@Krantz maybe edit the market description then?

@JussiVilleHeiskanen What is wrong with the description?

@Krantz What do you intend to convey? As written it says to indicate negative alignment.

@JussiVilleHeiskanen I am referring to the prediction listed in the description. Not this one.

@Krantz The description reads that the negatives influence the resolution.

@JussiVilleHeiskanen Yes. The number of positive positions minus the number of negative positions (counted using the market in the description "Who are you aligned with?") will be used to determine which single person this prediction resolves to.

You should not be having a problem expressing your positive or negative support in the market titled "Who are you aligned with?".

You are not intended to express a negative position in this market.

@Krantz Please see my comment in the other market. I don't think it is for instance possible for three people to show 99 mana support in the other market.

@Krantz You explicitly state the market is not a prediction. But a way of gauging alignment.