So this counts launches that don't have the starship itself on top as well, so the chaser launches etc. I assume thus because the wikipedia launch page lists the early ones too that didn't have it on top. Nevermind. I figured I don't know what the heck I am talking about...

@JussiVilleHeiskanen where on the page do you see that?

In case it is edited, at time of market creation the list counted April 20, 2023 as the first launch. Even if the list is edited in the future to include early hops, we’ll start counting there (which matches general community consensus)

@spider Sorry, I completely misread the page. ignore. I am totally out of my depth here.

Just to be clear, the plan for Starship is to catch it with the chopsticks. No barge landing is planned.

Same resolution criteria applies: falling out of the chopsticks - or anything along those lines - is a failed recovery.

for any ambiguity around hops, etc, numbering is based on this list
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Starship_launches

I'm assuming you mean ≥ 13, not less

@Mqrius 🤦‍♂️ edited, thanks.

Does a splashdown into the ocean and recovering from the water count?

@OnixarLilen interesting one. I feel like the correct thing to say that it does count, only if at the time it's believed that this is the pathway to reuse. If they're just doing a splashdown for 1-off early tests without ever intending to solve the problems around refurbishing after salt water, that's a no.

Does that feel fair to you?

Is this the second stage or is recovering booster of any relevance?

@ChristopherRandles just the second stage (starship), booster (super heavy) isn't a part of this market.